Showing posts with label 1820s. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 1820s. Show all posts

June 3, 2013

UK, c.1820

Taylor & Simpson of Kingston Jamaica reported the common price was S$5.50/lb.

c.1818: 1 Troy Ounce platina (Kingston Spot)  ~ £ 0.096 - 0.10 (USD$ 0.3771)
1817: 1 Troy Ounce platina (Vaughan of Phila.)  = USD$ 0.41 (£ 0.1051 - 0.1097)
   

1819: 1 Troy Oz. platina (4-5cwt, BID)  = £ 0.1029 (USD$ 0.3827)
April 1820: 1 Troy Oz. platina (8,000 ozt BID)  = £ 0.1250 (USD$ 0.5042)

Wollaston recorded higher scrap prices paid to Johnson circa 1822.
 
October 1805-16: 1 Troy Oz. Platinum (Scrap, Trade)  = £ 0.25 (USD$ 1.00)

1816: 1 Troy Oz. Platinum (scrap, Fletcher)  = £ 0.5641
1820-22: 1 Troy Oz. Platinum (scrap)  = £ 0.6441 (USD$ 2.894)

c.1820: 1 Troy Oz. Platinum (Used Retort)  = £ 1.75 (USD$ 7.)

Sandmann's old retort cost them £700, and before long they had three.


 

Platina was presumed abit heavier, and the Specific Gravity as high as 20.


November 21, 2011

France, 1820s: Gold Premium

France, 1820:
The Spanish peso/piastre apparently traded at 10% premium, against the 5:1 par. 

 


France

November 7, 2011

Russia, 1824-30: First Stage of Russian Platinum Production

Even to contemporaries, the valuation of Platinum in 1824-28 was problematic, uncertain, sometimes incorrect. In the comment about the St. Petersburg Price Drop, the Russian Platina Price Peak may be dated to November-December, 1825.

1825/6: Assuming the Colombian platina ban was somewhat effective, the large French consumption in 1825 & 1826 can be explained by early Russian platina export.

Citation: Aperçu sur les monnaies russes et sur les monnaies étrangères ..., Vol. 1; Stanislav Shoduar(1836) p.147


1822-1823: Platina was found but not yet fully identified.


In early 1826, von Humboldt calculated the 1824 Oural mine output in Francs (@ Fr 19,500,000/ 5700*32.15.) and it appears that intrinsic Platinum was implied or inferred to the Price of Gold at the monopolist St. Petersburg Mint.

Decades later, authors mistakenly continued to cite this as an actual Russian market 'Gold Price' for the period. It is nowhere evident nor established that unrefined or refined platinum (platina) in Russia ever sold at an intrinsic rate equal to Gold.

The Paris Price for refined Platinum was also not so high, perhaps 2/3rds the Gold Price (in December, 1825) according to Breant's table. However, on other markets this confusion may have advantageously favored speculators as Paris Platinum rose episodically & stratospherically on rumors and shortages.


Citation: Le globe, Volume 3 (1827), p.478


An unconfirmed expert opinion looking back ~80 years. This is may be an erroneous forex calculation (in Paper Rouble rates), the discrepancies below noted.

1) Among contemporary observers, however, the highest Paris-reported period Price for Russian platina was ~ Fr 32. (<£ 1.50), nearly matching a London Price for Colombian ore circa 1825, ~£ 1.55.

2) If otherwise correct, an extraordinarily circumstance occurred: refined Platinum sold at market in Paris for less than the "Ural Price for Crude" cited below at the Peak (December, 1825.) Those traders purchasing w/gold or silver would have paid higher 'metallic equivalent rates' at a Peak - an exceedingly poor (and unlikely) trade at the Troy Ounce, indeed.   Therefore, dubious estimations, 1819-27.


1825: 1 Troy Ounce platina (ore, @ Silver Rouble rate) = £ 2.10 (USD$ 10.14)
Citation: The Mineral industry, Volume 17 (1908), p.718

1836:
Official Russian estimation (1824-34)

1824-36: 1 Troy Oz. Platinum (est. avg.) = 22.30 Banco руб (USD$ 4.31)

Citation:Handels-Geographie: Ein Handbuch für Handels-, Gewerbs-, Real- und andere... ; Adolph Nischwitz (1835) p.641




The platina demand in France 1824-1826 exceeded Russian production by ~20%; it seems likely Russian platina exported to Paris.

1822-31: Russian platina production and French platina imports, in Troy Ounces



1918 Historical Platinum Production Summary:


Citation: Traité de chimie appliquée aux arts; Jean-Baptiste Dumas (1833) p.432


The early Platinum years coincided with increasing Russian bond market volatility, with notably higher bond prices (& speculative activity?)




Poud, in English Troy Ounces and Marcs, etc.



As late as the 1860s, this sort of transport from the Ural placers was common. The caravan journey took 5 months?

July 8, 2011

Russia: Rouble Value 1800-1815






1791-1825: Pound Sterling/Rouble Exchange @ SPb








Although major calculations were always against the Silver Rouble rate, there were several variant moneys in Russia at this time, including:

a) Residual Silver Roubles (and minor Russian or foreign coinage in silver)
b) The Ruble of Exchange, or 'Rouble Effectif'
c) The Paper Ruble, or Assignat/Banco
d) Copper Coinage (Copecks)
e) Gold Ducat (Imperiales)

At the time of the establishment of the US currency until about 1798, there was Dollar-Rouble parity. Mexican (Spanish) piastres, basis for US Dollar Coin and nearly always at par, also circulated in Russia as money.

(Priced in Paper Roubles, the intrinsic value of other silver coinage is likewise informative.)

In 1800, 62 US ships visited Russia: American trade was increasing. Although the value of (coin) Silver Roubles was intrinsic and likely traded at an agio, when the Paper Rouble quickly depreciated (c.1801) US merchants began calculating on London, in Pence ; however, many cambists did not correct or update this data.

Alternately, the paper Rouble value of South American piastres (global trade Dollars) constitutes a Silver valuation (in Paper Roubles) and a simple proxy for USD$ forex 1800-1830.

c.1789/90: The Dollar/Rouble parity (1:1)  assume because the Pound Sterling exchange?


c.1794: The 1789 Rouble-Dollar parity was quickly revised; however, this DATED/ERROR in forex persists in many currency tables for the next two decades




c. 1795:  the Silver Rouble at nearly 400 grains troy (25.894 g) Fine Ag and worth ~USD$ 0.87 - 0.90 (1790-97)

c.1795: 1 ozt Fine Silver (English Coin) = 1.59 руб



c.1797:


1797- :



















1794: £0.1135 - £0.1354

c. 1794? 1:1 Rouble/Dollar Parity (error)
1797:


c.1795-7



1799: Paper Rouble, ~24 d (£0.1) 



1799, 1800:



1800: Silver Rouble reported at par with US Dollar (error, dated)


1800 Price Index (much more data at this source)




1800:


c.1800: 1 Rouble (?) = USD$ 0.66

1801: 1 Rouble = £0.125


1796; 1802

1800-1803:

c.1803:



c.1803:


c. - 1804:


Unknown:


New Silver Rouble, circa 1804?


1804:



1804:


1804: Silver agio 25%



June, 1805: Silver agio 30%




1805:


1805:


c.1806:

1806:


1806/7:



c.1807


c.1807/8:


1808:


1808:




1808?


c.1809:




c.1809:


1809/10?





1810:


1811:


1811:




1812:







July 18, 1813: руб. Banco 1 = USD$ 0.20; руб. 1 = USD$ 0.75;
руб. Banco 1 = £0.040385 - 0.058333




c.1814: